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Post by Golden Bluebird on Nov 14, 2017 9:11:21 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 11/14/20171. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (161.473) (-1.606) 2. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (144.797) (+2.085) 3. (=) P!NK - What About Us (123.856) (+0.141) 4. (=) DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry (116.852) (-0.489) 5. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention (113.591) (-1.961) 6. (=) LOGIC - 1-800-273-8255 f/A.Cara/Khalid (111.027) (-1.547) 7. (=) MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA (110.166) (+0.120) 8. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (109.530) (+3.310) *** 9. (+1) POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage (104.811) (+2.577) 10. (-1) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (100.067) (-2.188) 11. (=) SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes (97.432) (-0.187) 12. (=) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo (95.922) (+0.309) 13. (=) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands (90.046) (-1.194) 14. (=) J BALVIN - Mi Gente f/Willy William (88.557) (+0.530) 15. (=) KESHA - Praying (87.502) (+0.519) 16. (+1) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (85.445) (+0.580) 17. (-1) CARDI B - Bodak Yellow (83.898) (-1.287) 18. (=) ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You (79.907) (-1.150) 19. (=) FRENCH MONTANA - Unforgettable f/Swae Lee (75.716) (-0.745) 20. (=) BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like (71.979) (-0.356) Others: 23. (=) CARLY PEARCE - Every Little Thing (67.085) (-1.849) 25. (=) HALSEY - Bad At Love (64.963) (+1.459) 29. (=) TAYLOR SWIFT - Ready For It (60.434) (+1.327) 38. (+4) KENDRICK LAMAR - LOVE. (48.442) (+1.067) 49. (=) DUA LIPA - New Rules (42.412) (+1.073)
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Post by Someone on Nov 14, 2017 9:38:05 GMT -5
simmnfierzig’s early predictions
Used the old formula
1 Rockstar 418 (=)
2 Havana 382 (=)
3 Bodak Yellow 310 (=)
4 Thunder 307 (+1)
5 Too Good At Goodbyes 283 (-1)
6 Perfect 270 (+2)
7 No Limit 248 (+6)
8 1-800-273-8255 246 (-2)
9 Gucci Gang 246
10 Feel It Still 237 (-3)
11 Mi Gente 232 (-1)
12 What Lovers Do 221 (-3)
13 Walk On Water 220 (debut)
17 Bad At Love 179 (+3)
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Post by Someone on Nov 14, 2017 9:39:17 GMT -5
Hopefully a discount and a AMA performance will push thunder to #2. Or #1 for that matter but I honestly don’t see that happening.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 14, 2017 15:23:25 GMT -5
I hope Praying can get one last push to the Top 20 as it's still gaining on airplay, an AMA performance and a discount could definitely send it over the top. I mean, it just moved 31-28.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 14, 2017 16:14:00 GMT -5
Havana is coming for the top 5 on Radio Songs and rockstar could be close to it by next week.
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Post by NeRD on Nov 14, 2017 16:51:09 GMT -5
C'mon Camila.
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Post by crazyb on Nov 14, 2017 17:20:27 GMT -5
I hope that prediction stays true and No Limit can hit the top ten.
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Post by brady47 on Nov 14, 2017 17:31:11 GMT -5
Omg, radio is eating Havana up, looks like it will go top 3 next week 17-9-3.
And I'm amazed with Praying's longevity - it's basically been top 30 since it's debut. It would be amazing if it could hit top 20, it's too bad airplay/sales never lined up and that streaming isn't that strong.
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Nov 14, 2017 18:25:37 GMT -5
I'm very impressed that P!nk has managed to remain relevant for so long. Real career longevity. Multigenerational.
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Post by GPMB on Nov 14, 2017 18:37:51 GMT -5
Rockstar vs. Havana is the new Black Beatles vs. Starboy
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Post by C.Ro on Nov 14, 2017 20:38:43 GMT -5
Can someone explain me how the points are counted? I'd love to see No Limit in the top 10 but I don't get how is gonna make it when I see it out of the top 20 both on airplay and iTunes, is the streaming that strong for this?
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 14, 2017 20:39:42 GMT -5
Is this the week streaming changes?
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Post by rfucom on Nov 14, 2017 20:53:18 GMT -5
Can someone explain the new rules regarding chart points thanks
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Post by Someone on Nov 14, 2017 21:14:20 GMT -5
Can someone explain the new rules regarding chart points thanks Paid services are counted more then non paid services now. So a stream on a Premium Spotify account will count more then a Non Premium. This also applys to YouTube too. But I don’t know to what extent. I have no clue if YouTube Red is counted as a premium service. (Hopefully i did a decent job explaining.) |
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Post by rfucom on Nov 14, 2017 21:18:06 GMT -5
Can someone explain the new rules regarding chart points thanks Paid services are counted more then non paid services now. So a stream on a Premium Spotify account will count more then a Non Premium. This also applys to YouTube too. But I don’t know to what extent. I have no clue if YouTube Red is counted as a premium service. (Hopefully i did a decent job explaining.) Thank you. Oh I see so it's like 2:1 scenario. 2 points for paid and 1 point for just non paid free streaming. But it's hard to see on spotify top 200 whether the number of listens came from paid and non-paid |
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Nov 14, 2017 22:20:46 GMT -5
Can someone explain the new rules regarding chart points thanks Paid services are counted more then non paid services now. So a stream on a Premium Spotify account will count more then a Non Premium. Well, it's not just Premium (or it shouldn't be); Unlimited is paid too. |
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 15, 2017 0:56:37 GMT -5
I don't think it's going to be 2:1. To my knowledge, we don't know exactly how it's going to be weighted, but I would expect them to be closer than that. Like 1.5:1.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 5:13:22 GMT -5
I hope Praying can get one last push to the Top 20 as it's still gaining on airplay, an AMA performance and a discount could definitely send it over the top. I mean, it just moved 31-28. Anything could happen but so far an AMAs performance isn't happening. I'd like it to inch closer to its peak though |
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Post by mako on Nov 15, 2017 5:19:15 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Nov 15, 2017 5:32:17 GMT -5
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Nov 15, 2017 5:51:31 GMT -5
Hopefully Urban fans don't have money for Premium Spotify. We don't need the money when we have like quadruple the numbers. |
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 15, 2017 6:51:12 GMT -5
The shift is going to benefit Urban if anything, this is the Apple Music chart, which has no free tier after the trial period. So if you're expecting some sort of respite for thin-voiced Nordic chicks, you're probably outta luck. |
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 15, 2017 8:25:08 GMT -5
The shift is going to benefit Urban if anything, this is the Apple Music chart, which has no free tier after the trial period. So if you're expecting some sort of respite for thin-voiced Nordic chicks, you're probably outta luck. I think you might be underestimating how many people constantly renew their 3 month free Apple Music trial. Does that matter though when there's literally only four songs with no Urban connection (Sam Smith at #10, Ed Sheeran at #23, Halsey at #35, and Imagine Dragons at #36, with the last two being there with Urban or Rhythmic leaning material) in the top 40? Five if you count Camila, but she has Young Thug and is top 15 at Rhythmic. I get that this board has a hatred for seeing Black artists with Urban Contemporary material hitting high on the Hot 100, but the bottom line is that Streaming skews young, and young people are into Urban music right now. It doesn't mean that it's the way it will be permanently (if this was all happening in 2011, I bet you that Skrillex and Afrojack would have had higher charting tracks), but that's the way it is now. It's a lot cheaper to may $10-$15 a month than any other method of payment for music, which lowers the Price Floor for being included in what is factored into the charts. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Nov 15, 2017 8:27:05 GMT -5
Man, other genres really need to catch up to this whole streaming thing.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Nov 15, 2017 9:14:23 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 11/15/20171. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (160.601) (-0.872) 2. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (146.541) (+1.744) 3. (=) P!NK - What About Us (123.351) (-0.505) 4. (=) DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry (115.457) (-1.395) 5. (+3) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (111.633) (+2.103) 6. (-1) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention (111.613) (-1.978) 7. (=) MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA (110.834) (+0.668) 8. (-2) LOGIC - 1-800-273-8255 f/A.Cara/Khalid (109.733) (-1.294) 9. (=) POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage (107.204) (+2.393) 10. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (98.481) (-1.586) 11. (=) SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes (97.462) (+0.030) 12. (=) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo (96.119) (+0.197) 13. (=) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands (89.740) (-0.306) *** 14. (=) J BALVIN - Mi Gente f/Willy William (89.412) (+0.855) 15. (=) KESHA - Praying (88.085) (+0.583) 16. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (86.744) (+1.299) 17. (=) CARDI B - Bodak Yellow (82.415) (-1.483) 18. (=) ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You (78.773) (-1.134) 19. (=) FRENCH MONTANA - Unforgettable f/Swae Lee (74.671) (-1.045) 20. (=) BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like (71.481) (-0.498) Others: 23. (+2) HALSEY - Bad At Love (66.464) (+1.501) 28. (+1) TAYLOR SWIFT - Ready For It (61.856) (+1.422) 36. (+2) KENDRICK LAMAR - LOVE. (49.662) (+1.220) 49. (=) DUA LIPA - New Rules (43.535) (+1.123) 66. (+2) THE CHAINSMOKERS - Closer f/Halsey (28.149) (+1.046) *** 70. (+7) MIGOS - MotorSport f/N. Minaj & Cardi (27.171) (+1.438)
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Nov 15, 2017 14:37:43 GMT -5
The shift is going to benefit Urban if anything, this is the Apple Music chart, which has no free tier after the trial period. So if you're expecting some sort of respite for thin-voiced Nordic chicks, you're probably outta luck. I think you might be underestimating how many people constantly renew their 3 month free Apple Music trial. Let’s not forget that college students get it for $4.99 (myself included) and I’m sure they make up a large percentage of subscriptions (and from my own personal experience, we listen to more Urban music than other genres) |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 15, 2017 15:07:49 GMT -5
I know this is kind of irrelevant, but I need to ask. I was here last year but never participated in the year-end rank down, how does it work exactly? We go through the entire 100 songs on 2017's chart and rank least to best?
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Post by MilesW1998 on Nov 15, 2017 15:12:29 GMT -5
I know this is kind of irrelevant, but I need to ask. I was here last year but never participated in the year-end rank down, how does it work exactly? We go through the entire 100 songs on 2017's chart and rank least to best? Yep, that's basically what it is. |
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Post by fhas on Nov 15, 2017 16:00:12 GMT -5
I don't think it's going to be 2:1. To my knowledge, we don't know exactly how it's going to be weighted, but I would expect them to be closer than that. Like 1.5:1. This makes a lot of sense since the programmed/on-demand+YouTube ratio is 2:1. The 2017 formula is: sales/6 + airplay/7,000 + on-demand/1,250 + YouTube/1,250 + programmed/2,500 I think for 2018 it's going to be something like: sales/5 + airplay/7,000 + paid on-demand/1,500 + free on-demand/2,250 + YouTube/2,250 + programmed/3,000 |
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Post by Someone on Nov 15, 2017 18:13:08 GMT -5
I don't think it's going to be 2:1. To my knowledge, we don't know exactly how it's going to be weighted, but I would expect them to be closer than that. Like 1.5:1. This makes a lot of sense since the programmed/on-demand+YouTube ratio is 2:1. The 2017 formula is: sales/6 + airplay/7,000 + on-demand/1,250 + YouTube/1,250 + programmed/2,500 I think for 2018 it's going to be something like: sales/5 + airplay/7,000 + paid on-demand/1,500 + free on-demand/2,250 + YouTube/2,250 + programmed/3,000 Did you happen to use this formula for your predictions today? |
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